{"id":16695,"date":"2021-05-21T07:34:43","date_gmt":"2021-05-21T07:34:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost:8080\/?p=16695"},"modified":"2021-05-21T07:34:43","modified_gmt":"2021-05-21T07:34:43","slug":"projet-towerco-europe-l-harmonisation-des-dispositifs-d-accompagnement-au-niveau-europeen-n-est-pas-a-l-ordre-du-jour","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dev.cfecgc-orange.app\/index.php\/2021\/05\/21\/projet-towerco-europe-l-harmonisation-des-dispositifs-d-accompagnement-au-niveau-europeen-n-est-pas-a-l-ordre-du-jour\/","title":{"rendered":"Projet TowerCo Europe: l’harmonisation des dispositifs d’accompagnement au niveau europ\u00e9en n’est pas \u00e0 l’ordre du jour !"},"content":{"rendered":"

[French version here\/English version below<\/em>]<\/p>\n

Dans le cadre du Comit\u00e9 de Groupe Europ\u00e9en d’Orange des 6 et 7 mai 2021 convoqu\u00e9 en session extraordinaire et organis\u00e9 \u00e0 distance, la Direction du Groupe a inscrit un point \u00e0 l’ordre du jour relatif au projet TowerCo Europe pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 par Charles Cl\u00e9ment-Fromentel, Directeur du projet TowerCo Europe, C\u00e9line Bergez, DRH de la DTSI et Pablo Carillo Rodriguez d\u2019Orange Espagne.<\/p>\n

Ce projet d\u00e9clin\u00e9 dans deux pays europ\u00e9ens fait l\u2019objet d\u2019une proc\u00e9dure d\u2019information-consultation du Comit\u00e9 de Groupe Europ\u00e9en, \u00e0 l\u2019ordre du jour de 3 r\u00e9unions successives en vue d\u2019un avis rendu au terme de celle du 10 juin prochain. D\u2019ores et d\u00e9j\u00e0 le Comit\u00e9 de Groupe Europ\u00e9en a \u00e9t\u00e9 inform\u00e9 du d\u00e9marrage en septembre d\u2019\u00e9tudes de faisabilit\u00e9 aux fins d\u2019extension du projet aux pays europ\u00e9ens suivants : Roumanie, Pologne, Moldavie, Slovaquie, Belgique et Luxembourg, repr\u00e9sentant potentiellement plus de 13 000 sites suppl\u00e9mentaires.  <\/p>\n

A la demande des \u00e9lus du Comit\u00e9 de Groupe Europ\u00e9en, la session extraordinaire du 6 mai dernier a port\u00e9 sur le volet social du dossier en France et en Espagne.<\/p>\n

En cons\u00e9quence le document remis aux \u00e9lus a \u00e9t\u00e9 compl\u00e9t\u00e9 par la Direction des donn\u00e9es sociales relatives aux salari\u00e9s directement impact\u00e9s par la cr\u00e9ation respective de la TowerCo France et de la TowerCo Espagne.<\/p>\n

En France, comme l\u2019ont soulign\u00e9 les avis du Comit\u00e9 Social et Economique\u2013DTSI et du Comit\u00e9 Social et Economique Cnetral (CSEC), l\u2019impact social ne touche pas seulement les salari\u00e9s qui quitteront Orange SA pour la TowerCo, mais \u00e9galement ceux qui demeureront au sein de la DTSI et seront in\u00e9vitablement affect\u00e9s par cette s\u00e9paration des activit\u00e9s.<\/p>\n

Les donn\u00e9es compl\u00e9mentaires fournies par la Direction aux membres du Comit\u00e9 de Groupe Europ\u00e9en sur les impacts sociaux de la filialisation en France de l\u2019activit\u00e9 TowerCo se concentrent sur les mesures d\u2019accompagnement en faveur des salari\u00e9s qui suivront leur activit\u00e9, sur la base du volontariat, \u00e0 savoir : une incitation financi\u00e8re dont le montant sera n\u00e9goci\u00e9, une clause de retour au sein d\u2019Orange SA garantie pendant une dur\u00e9e de 5 ans, le maintien du salaire global gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 une prime compensatoire couvrant divers \u00e9l\u00e9ments de la r\u00e9mun\u00e9ration variable ainsi que les \u00e9ventuels avantages en nature, dans l\u2019attente de la signature des accords propres \u00e0 la nouvelle structure, la reprise de l\u2019anciennet\u00e9, le transfert des jours de cong\u00e9s et ceux li\u00e9s \u00e0 la r\u00e9duction du temps de travail,. Pour les salari\u00e9s dont l\u2019activit\u00e9 sera transf\u00e9r\u00e9e mais qui ne souhaitent pas quitter Orange SA, une solution de reclassement sera propos\u00e9e au sein d\u2019Orange. Au terme du d\u00e9bat avec les \u00e9lus, Gervais Pellissier s\u2019est engag\u00e9 \u00e0 ce qu\u2019une solution soit trouv\u00e9e pour chaque cas individuel, excluant tout recours \u00e0 un licenciement.<\/p>\n

En Espagne, la situation est juridiquement distincte. Alors qu\u2019en France la Direction a consid\u00e9r\u00e9 que l\u2019article L1224-1 du Code du Travail ne pouvait s\u2019appliquer, l\u2019article 44 du statut des travailleurs r\u00e9gissant la succession d\u2019entreprises, et de port\u00e9e \u00e9quivalente dans le syst\u00e8me l\u00e9gal espagnol, est en revanche mis en \u0153uvre dans le dossier de transfert des salari\u00e9s \u00e0 la TowerCo espagnole. Les salari\u00e9s espagnols conservent donc leurs droits et obligations au sein de leur nouvelle entit\u00e9. Ne se posent pas ainsi comme pour les salari\u00e9s fran\u00e7ais le questionnement l\u00e9gitime au sujet du maintien de la r\u00e9mun\u00e9ration. Une garantie de l\u2019emploi d\u2019une ann\u00e9e est assur\u00e9e \u00e0 ces salari\u00e9s. En revanche l\u2019application de ce dispositif exclut le principe du volontariat, les salari\u00e9s dont l\u2019activit\u00e9 est transf\u00e9r\u00e9e n\u2019auront a priori pas la possibilit\u00e9 d\u2019opter pour un reclassement dans leur soci\u00e9t\u00e9 d\u2019origine. La clause de retour vers Orange Espagne n\u2019est pas non plus envisag\u00e9e.<\/p>\n

Enfin, si la part de la sous-traitance n\u2019est pas, \u00e0 ce stade, parfaitement connue, il semble clair que le sch\u00e9ma d\u2019organisation retenu lui fait une nouvelle fois une large place dans la future organisation de la TowerCo. A titre d\u2019exemple, un seul poste est pr\u00e9vu pour la gestion du SI de la filiale espagnole.<\/p>\n

Le projet, tel que pr\u00e9sent\u00e9, sans surprise, ne porte ainsi aucune politique ambitieuse de l’emploi.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Les \u00e9lus ont r\u00e9agi sur les disparit\u00e9s de traitement des salari\u00e9s selon leur rattachement actuel \u00e0 Orange Espagne ou Orange France et ont engag\u00e9 le d\u00e9bat sur une harmonisation des mesures d\u2019accompagnement. La Direction n\u2019a pas clairement r\u00e9pondu sur le sujet d\u2019un socle commun au niveau europ\u00e9en des garanties et mesures incitatives et protectrices.  <\/strong><\/p>\n

Les \u00e9lus estiment pourtant qu\u2019Orange pourrait commencer \u00e0 cr\u00e9er les conditions d\u2019une harmonisation. Un socle commun harmonis\u00e9 de mesures pourrait retenir les plus favorables des deux dispositifs: la base du volontariat, la reprise de tous les \u00e9l\u00e9ments de r\u00e9mun\u00e9ration, avantages en nature et temps de travail, une clause de retour, une m\u00eame garantie minimale d\u2019emploi dans chaque filiale.<\/strong><\/p>\n

[English version<\/em>]<\/p>\n

As part of the Orange European Works Council on May 6th and 7th, 2021 convened in an extraordinary session and organized remotely, the Group Management has included an item on the agenda relating to the TowerCo Europe, project presented by Charles Cl\u00e9ment-Fromentel, Director of the TowerCo Europe project, C\u00e9line Bergez, HR Director of DTSI and Pablo Carillo Rodriguez of Orange Spain.<\/p>\n

This project, implemented in two European countries, is the subject of an information- consultation procedure on the agenda of 3 successive meetings until June 10th. The European Works Council has already been informed of the start in September of feasibility studies for the purpose of extending the project to the following European countries: Romania, Poland, Moldova, Slovakia, Belgium and Luxembourg, potentially representing more than 13,000 additional sites.<\/p>\n

 At the request of the elected members of the European Works Council, the extraordinary session of May 6th focused on the social aspects in France and Spain. <\/p>\n

Consequently, the document given to elected officials was completed by social data relating to employees directly impacted by the respective creation of TowerCo France and TowerCo Spain.<\/p>\n

In France, the social impact does not only affect the employees who will leave Orange SA for the TowerCo but also those who will remain within DTSI and will inevitably be affected by this separation of activities. <\/p>\n

The additional data provided by the Management to the members of the European Works Council focuses on the support measures in favor of the employees who will follow their activity.<\/p>\n

Support measures are planned for those who, on a voluntary basis, will follow their activity in the new French subsidiary, namely: a financial incentive the amount of which will be negotiated, a return clause within Orange SA guaranteed for a period of duration of 5 years, the maintenance of the total salary by the guarantee of a compensatory bonus covering various elements of the variable remuneration as well as the possible benefits in kind, pending the signature of new agreements, the transfer of days off and those linked to the reduction of working time. For employees whose activity will be transferred but who do not wish to leave Orange SA, a reclassification solution will be offered within Orange. At the end of the debate with elected members, Gervais Pellissier pledged that a solution would be found for each individual case, excluding any recourse to dismissal.<\/p>\n

In Spain, the situation is legally distinct. While in France the Management considered that article L1224-1 of the Labor Code could not apply, article 44 of the workers’ statute governing the succession of companies, and of equivalent scope in the Spanish legal system, is on  implemented for the transfer of employees to the Spanish TowerCo. Spanish employees therefore retain their rights and obligations within their new entity. Thus, as for French employees, there is no legitimate questioning about the maintenance of remuneration. These employees are guaranteed a one-year job. However, the application of this device excludes the principle of volunteering, employees whose activity is transferred will a priori not have the possibility of opting for reclassification in their home company. The return clause to Orange Spain is also not being considered.<\/p>\n

The elected representatives unanimously reacted to the difference in the treatment of employees according to their current attachment to Orange Spain or Orange France and initiated the debate on a harmonization of support measures. Management did not provide a clear answer on the subject of a common base at European level for guarantees and incentive and protective measures, trying to focus discussions more on the strategic aspects of the issue. Elected officials believe that Orange could begin to create the conditions for this harmonization.<\/strong><\/p>\n

The harmonized common base of measures could retain the most favorable ones of the two mechanisms: the voluntary basis, the automatic postponement of all elements of remuneration, benefits in kind and working time, the return clause, and a minimum guarantee of employment in each branch.<\/strong><\/p>\n

They regret that the project as presented does not carry any ambitious employment policy.<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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