{"id":3635,"date":"2012-02-16T16:29:53","date_gmt":"2012-02-16T16:29:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost:8080\/?p=3635"},"modified":"2012-02-16T16:29:53","modified_gmt":"2012-02-16T16:29:53","slug":"14-et-15-fevrier-2012-operation-immobiliere-projet-c5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dev.cfecgc-orange.app\/index.php\/2012\/02\/16\/14-et-15-fevrier-2012-operation-immobiliere-projet-c5\/","title":{"rendered":"14 et 15 fevrier 2012 :  op\u00e9ration immobili\u00e8re (projet C5)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Informations de la Direction :<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>R&amp;D, CNET \u00e0 Issy les Moulineaux, le bruit courait d\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00be ans, avant, le CNET serait abandonn\u00e9. Recherche de pistes : 1\/ R\u00e9novation du site : le propri\u00e9taire \u00e9tait OK pour maintenir, revoir le loyer \u00e0 la baisse, mais en aucun cas financer les travaux.<br \/>2\/ Cr\u00e9er un nouveau site, tout comme le CNET, en regardant sur Paris, en am\u00e9liorant performance sociale et \u00e9conomique.<br \/><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Caract\u00e9ristiques :<\/span><br \/>D\u00e9lai suffisant pour construire ce projet : 24 mois<br \/>Site \u00e9volutif qui puisse s&rsquo;adapter \u00e0 des \u00e9volutions inconnues \u00e0 ce jour<br \/>Implantation : CHATILLON :<br \/>Terrain 3 hectares, rare en proche R\u00e9gion Parisienne -D\u00e9j\u00e0 plusieurs implantations FT<br \/>32 000 personnes y habitent, 4400 personnes prof &#8211; Proche de parc municipal, Tennis<br \/>1 km du m\u00e9tro &#8211; site en location &#8211;<br \/><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Agenda :<\/span><br \/>Avril 2012 : signature du contrat de location<br \/>Livraison Juin 2015 ; entr\u00e9e dans les lieux : 1er semestre 2016<br \/>4 sites identifi\u00e9s avec OLNC, GMI et NAC,<br \/><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Locaux :<\/span><br \/>Salle de fitness, beaucoup d&rsquo;acc\u00e8s pi\u00e9tons, Site 300 m de long sur 200 m de large<br \/>Quid des d\u00e9placements des handicap\u00e9s ? Terrain un peu en pente : risque d&rsquo;inondations<br \/>Pas de places de parking 2 roues motoris\u00e9s ????<br \/>B\u00e2timent basse consommation (gros travail sur l&rsquo;environnement)<br \/>&#8211; b\u00e2timent d&rsquo;accueil : de 3200 \u00e0 4000 salari\u00e9s ? =&gt; dimensionn\u00e9 pour 5200 salari\u00e9s???<br \/><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Analyse \u00e9conomique :<\/span><br \/>Bail de 9 ans &#8211; On est sur des m2 Tertiaires ???<br \/>Loyer annuel \u00a823,5 M..\u20ac, (2016, prix comparables \u00e0 ceux d&rsquo;aujourd&rsquo;hui).<br \/>Bail de 12 ans \u00e0 n\u00e9gocier avec le propri\u00e9taire<br \/>Le co\u00fbt des d\u00e9m\u00e9nagements et am\u00e9nagements estim\u00e9 \u00e0 35 M\u20ac<br \/>Les 4 sites regroupent 3050 + 850 personnes non identifi\u00e9es sur la base de ratio de loyer, on passerait \u00e0 30 M \u20ac<br \/>9M\u20ac d&rsquo;\u00e9conomies en ann\u00e9e r\u00e9elle<br \/>Amortissement en moins de 4 ans ???<br \/><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Notre position \/nos questions (Jo\u00eblle Lebat-Tokol)<\/strong><\/span><br \/>Lecture d\u00e9claration pr\u00e9alable et questions en PJ ci-apr\u00e8s :<br \/>Le projet est \u00e0 construire, ce n&rsquo;est que l&rsquo;enveloppe qui est pr\u00e9sent\u00e9e lors de ce CCUES ;<br \/>FT : Les services sont \u00e0 d\u00e9finir ensemble en se projetant sur 2020-2025<br \/>Au niveau des \u00e9tudes de co\u00fbt sur l&rsquo;existant, travail tr\u00e8s pouss\u00e9 sur R&amp;D &#8211; les travaux consommeraient des cr\u00e9dits importants et n&rsquo;auraient pas&nbsp;un niveau de qualit\u00e9 digne&nbsp;de ce projet, Les travaux en site occup\u00e9 sont extr\u00eamement d\u00e9stabilisants.<br \/>Accessibilit\u00e9 des transports : en IDF, le trajet domicile travail important pour l&rsquo;\u00e9quilibre des salari\u00e9s, pour quelques salari\u00e9s le trajet sera aggrav\u00e9 et d&rsquo;autres non.<br \/>FT : Chatillon Montrouge sera une interconnexion du grand paris et permettra de drainer une bonne partie du sud de l&rsquo;IDF<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<a class=\"jce_file\" href=\"http:\/\/localhost:8080\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/DECLARATION_PREALABLE_CFE_CGC__PROJET_C5_CHATILLON_14_02_2012__2_.pdf\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\" size-full wp-image-12\" src=\"http:\/\/localhost:8080\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/pdf.png\" alt=\"pdf\" style=\"border: 0px; vertical-align: middle;\" class=\"jce_icon\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" \/>&nbsp;DECLARATION PREALABLE CFE CGC  PROJET C5 CHATILLON 14 02 2012  2 .pdf<\/a>&nbsp; <a class=\"jce_file\" href=\"http:\/\/localhost:8080\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/QUESTIONS_PROJET_C5_14_02_2012__2_.pdf\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\" size-full wp-image-12\" src=\"http:\/\/localhost:8080\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/pdf.png\" alt=\"pdf\" style=\"border: 0px; vertical-align: middle;\" class=\"jce_icon\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" \/>&nbsp;QUESTIONS PROJET C5 14 02 2012  2 .pdf<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Informations de la Direction : R&amp;D, CNET \u00e0 Issy les Moulineaux, le bruit courait d\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00be ans, avant, le CNET serait abandonn\u00e9. 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